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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 6:21 am
 


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I don't agree that they're all justified and if you don't think police treat black people more harshly than whites - especially in the US - then you're blind


I didn't say they're all justified. The vast majority of them are.

I'm not blind. In fact, I've looked into this a lot more than you have, just based on your feedback you've offered here.

You're offering up the typical BLM lines trying to sell us on something that facts and statistics disagree with.


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Add another set of facts, as analyzed in a just released Harvard study [full embed at bottom of post], reported in The NY Times:

A new study confirms that black men and women are treated differently in the hands of law enforcement. They are more likely to be touched, handcuffed, pushed to the ground or pepper-sprayed by a police officer, even after accounting for how, where and when they encounter the police.

But when it comes to the most lethal form of force — police shootings — the study finds no racial bias.
“It is the most surprising result of my career,” said Roland G. Fryer Jr., the author of the study and a professor of economics at Harvard. The study examined more than 1,000 shootings in 10 major police departments, in Texas, Florida and California.

The result contradicts the mental image of police shootings that many Americans hold.


The study did show a racial disparity in non-lethal use of force, such as searches and handcuffing. But those are not the events that drive Black Lives Matters riots and protests. If Michael Brown had been patted down and handcuffed, rather than shot dead, the Black Lives Matter movement would not have launched as it did.

Black Lives Matter is a social movement launched by the left, which uses allegedly racist police killings as the excuse and justification for a pre-existing anti-capitalist narrative. If those justifications don’t actually exist, it will not change the narrative, because facts never mattered.


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Here it is again. And I notice we're hearing less and less from Progressives about their "debunking" skills as more and more of us refuse to ignore the obvious conclusions drawn from the math.

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In America there is a recurring theme among those on the left that police target black men. This goes right to the top. President Obama said this immediately after the shootings in Minnesota and Louisiana: “We have seen tragedies like this too many times. All of us as Americans should be troubled by these shootings, because these are not isolated incidents. They’re symptomatic of a broader set of racial disparities that exist in our criminal justice system…the data shows that black folks are more vulnerable to these kinds of incidents.” Does the data show this? It does if you are a charlatan or an idiot.

William D. Rubinstein: Blacks and Police in Violent America

If you consult the FBI crime statistics by race[i] you will find that in 2014 whites committed 46% of murders and blacks (accounting for only 13% of the population) for 51%. But hold on, these statistics are skewed, surely? They certainly are. By a PC sleight of hand, the FBI has redefined ‘white’ to include Hispanics, North Africans and Middle Easterners. So what is the white murder rate?

There is no data. But only six out of 71 of the FBI’s current ‘most-wanted’ offenders are white, according to The New Observer[ii], which looked at the mug shots and names. It goes on to conclude that “non-whites commit at least 90% of all violent crimes in America.” I heard one commentator drag a figure out of the air and say that blacks are nine times more likely to be stopped by police than are whites. Even if this is true, in view of their disproportionate criminality, it is hardly surprising.

It also seems to be generally acknowledged, without the benefit of reliable statistics unfortunately, that more whites are killed by cops than are blacks. Of course, the counter point is made that blacks are killed disproportionately. But again, if a segment of the population put itself at particular risk of coming into adversarial contact with law enforcement, particularly in a gun-toting society, more from that segment will be killed. Pari passu blacks disproportionately kill cops.

The FBI reports that 511 law enforcement officers were feloniously killed in the the ten years from 2004 to 2013.[iii] The perpetrators break down as 51% white and 43% black. But again, the ‘white’ figure is seriously inflated by the selective colour blindness of the FBI; which, to repeat, identifies Hispanics, North Africans and Middle-Easterners as ‘white’.

Where am I heading? First, there appears to be no compelling statistical evidence that the police unduly target blacks in America. Second, if we sheep want to be safe then the police everywhere need to concentrate their efforts on those more likely to do us harm. They need to profile. And for their own safety, and ultimately ours, they need to avoid putting their own lives at unnecessary risk.

This means in America that young black men will go on being killed by cops at a disproportionate rate. Of course, within the bounds of not further compromising police safety, efforts should be made to reduce and minimise such killings. But in the end result, while blacks continue to engage in sharply disproportionate criminality, black deaths at the hands of police is the price which will be paid for public safety, however disturbing and unfortunate that is.

There is an option. It is to allow black criminals to run rampant. Perhaps, rather than confront them and risk being killed or having their careers ruined or worse for a false step in the heat of the moment, the cops should offer black criminals a lift to the nearest white middle-class liberal enclave; retire to safety, and hear about the ‘fun’ next day.

Facts don’t matter to rabble-rousers like the agitators in Black Lives Matter and those who give them credibility. They are a plague; and would plunge us into a nightmarish world without safety, if their fantasies were ever to be realized. We need cops to keep the bad guys at bay. As Det. Frank Keller (Al Pacino) colorfully puts in the movie Sea of Love: “Come the wet-ass hour, I’m everybody’s daddy.”



http://quadrant.org.au/opinion/qed/2016 ... ack-white/


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BTW, here's how the NewObserver mentioned above arrives at their preposterous sounding stat.

90% Nonwhite Violent Crime Rate: FBI

It wouldn't surprise me if it turned out this NewObserver had racist connections, and I'm sure "Debunkman" will be rifling through the internet to find them now that I've mentioned it. But I don't think that matters here. The truth is in the math, or it isn't.

Personally, I think this "11% formula" they derive from the most wanted list is a little twitchy, but I suspect there is at least enough truth buried there that it demands further investigation.

Also:

http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/263450/ ... ge-editors

IT’S TIME TO DESIGNATE BLACK LIVES MATTER A TERRORIST ORGANIZATION. Inciting a war against police is terrorism


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